https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64328#M17121 Hi SteveBoomer You're absolutely right about it. Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:43:00 GMT tjunicho 2017-09-07T19:43:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64326#M17119 Hello, If the runtime resource is setup in a way that it is showing connected in control room and there is a organizational process setup to login to the runtime resource if there is a restart or logoff on the machine (the startup scripts are also setup to run automatically on logon). Thus, this ensures that the state of runtime resource is always shown as Connected in control room. With the above in mind, do we still need Login Agent? If yes, please provide a scenario in which we would need it. thanks Nikhil Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:03:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64326#M17119 Anonymous 2017-09-05T22:03:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64327#M17120 Hi Nikhil, yes the LoginAgent is required. You cannot send a login request to a resource without it. Once the login request has completed the resource runs the Automate.exe with parameters set (check the documentation) and the login agent is stopped (although not in the Windows services). When the resource logs off it will start the LoginAgent service again. Installing the login agent also provides you with the business object and processes required for login / log off / checked logged on etc. Hope this helps (and is correct - I'm relatively new to this myself), Steve Thu, 07 Sep 2017 18:30:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64327#M17120 SteveBoomer 2017-09-07T18:30:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64328#M17121 Hi SteveBoomer You're absolutely right about it. Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:43:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64328#M17121 tjunicho 2017-09-07T19:43:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64329#M17122 Hello, The question is if the resource never logs off, does login agent does any job. Or to put it in another way if the resource is always shows connected is the login agent doing any job. thanks Nikhil Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:04:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64329#M17122 Anonymous 2017-09-09T22:04:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64330#M17123 If the Runtime machines are connected WITHOUT a Key icon (which means the runtimes are logged in), the job of LoginAgent is to Log them out. On the other hand, if the runtimes are connected WITH a Key icon (which means the runtimes are logged out and ready to log in), the job of LoginAgent is to Log them in. Hope this helps. Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:39:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64330#M17123 tjunicho 2017-09-10T08:39:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64331#M17124 I would also assume that once the runtime resource is logged in , Login agent as such is NOT required. The 'Change Password' process might be one scenario that needs to be invoked as and when required. Mon, 11 Sep 2017 11:29:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64331#M17124 NeerajGupta 2017-09-11T11:29:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64332#M17125 Keep in mind that in normal environment you may need to reboot systems (i.e. after applying system patches). Then you would need login agent to automatically log on to the systems. If you have one robot and few processes doing this manually is not an issue. When you have teen or tens of robots then it is better to do this with the software. Mon, 11 Sep 2017 14:15:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64332#M17125 TomaszAdamski 2017-09-11T14:15:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64333#M17126 Thanks everyone, I resolved the problem. Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:13:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64333#M17126 Anonymous 2017-09-12T13:13:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64334#M17127 Thanks everyone, I resolved the problem. Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:13:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64334#M17127 Anonymous 2017-09-12T13:13:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64335#M17128 Thanks all for response. I understand that Login agent is an automated way to start runtime resource if the resource vm has been restarted or bot user is logged off. I also understand that in larger environments this would be required if a lot of manual steps is to be removed. However the login agent is not required if the runtime resource connection is done manually and then the VM disconnected. Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:03:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64335#M17128 Anonymous 2017-09-13T00:03:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64336#M17129 hi nikhiljha1, a don't understand the module login agent, please, do you have any guide outside guide oficial ? please send me to elvishromero@gmail.com thank you. Mon, 09 Oct 2017 21:54:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64336#M17129 ElvisRomero 2017-10-09T21:54:00Z https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64337#M17130 ElvisITC - there is a data sheet in the product area of the portal related to using login agent, there is also lots of help in the Knowledgebase. The most important thing in relation to the Production resource/robot desktops is that they are secure and cannot be accessed to ensure the security of the logical access model that is put in place as part of the Robotic Operating Model. It does not matter if Login Agent is used (fairly irrelivent if the robot is utilised 24/7 and therefore always logged in), or if access to the robots is simply restricted using the VM tools in use - all that is important is that no one can access the robots whilst they are access production systems containing production data. Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:28:00 GMT https://community.blueprism.com/t5/Product-Forum/Is-Login-Agent-even-required-if-Runtime-Resouce-state-is-already/m-p/64337#M17130 Denis__Dennehy 2017-10-10T16:28:00Z